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Q:
1. You're a family therapist. Why did you write a novel?
As a clinician and expert in family trauma, I can reach only
a few hundred or at best a few thousand individuals
and families in my practice. As an author, I can reach many,
many thousands of people who will respond to my message, and
perhaps seek help for themselves. It can be deeply transforming
to see the events of your life portrayed in a dramatic story.
I want my readers to respond with a gut level "Yes"
of recognition.
Q: 2. Why do you think Americans are going to read your
novel?
My novel will strike a chord of recognition in the American
people because it shows the truth of how past traumas in our
history as a nation influence and affect current behavior.
Q: 3. Can you give examples of that?
The attacks of 9/11/01 awakened traumatic memories of Pearl
Harbor and the onset of the Second World War. Although the
two historical contexts are very different, the American people
reacted by recalling the earlier trauma and declaring war.
The trauma of chattel slavery began in 1619 but it still haunts
the relationships between blacks and whites in America today.
Q: 4. You treat patients who suffer from post-traumatic
stress disorder. What is that?
A person who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder
has lived through an event that is outside the realm of everyday
life, the experience of which, would traumatize any individual.
These events can be the experience of war or combat in war
, acts of state terrorism, torture, physical assaults, family
violence and sexual abuse. A person's response is characteristic
and universal. Specifically, memories of trauma force their
way into consciousness and cause high anxiety, often accompanied
by attempts to deny the event. Repetitive dreams and/or obsessive
thoughts disturb the individual, causing a loss of interest
in usual activities, loss of sexual interest, isolation and
the absence of emotional expression or psychic numbing.
Q: 5. How did you show post-traumatic stress disorder in
your novel?
Most of my characters suffer from memories of trauma related
to war or violence in the family. In Billy Richcreek's family,
his father suffers from memories of the violence he inflicted
as an assassin for American espionage operations. Billy suffers
from memories of his sister's murder and from listening to
his father's tales of multiple assassinations. The coaches
of the Cannon High School football team re-live their war
experiences by acting out the Battle of Anzio Beach at football
practice. Billy's girlfriend, Belle, suffers from the trauma
of her mother's suicide and her father suffers from being
a prisoner of war at the hands of the Nazis. Buss, the hog
man, suffers from trauma he experienced as a soldier in Korea.
Frank shows full-blown post-traumatic stress symptoms following
his brief tour in Viet Nam. It's quite a list.
Q: 6. Is post-traumatic stress related to recovered memory
of sexual abuse?
Yes and no. Post-traumatic stress disorder is defined by
observable behavior of the individual. Recovered memory is
not so observable. In both cases, a person can "act out"
or display typical symptoms. Sometimes the symptoms acted
out include acts of incest or sex abuse perpetrated on the
sons and daughters.
Q: 7. Why won't your hero, Billy, have sex with his girl
friend, Belle?
In the novel, Billy has taken an oath of purity until Communism
is defeated. In fact, Billy suffers from a condition called
Secondary Impotence meaning he cannot maintain an erection.
This condition is common among boys who sleep in their mothers'
beds following the desertion of their fathers. In Billy's
case, his father's memories of trauma drove him to murder
his own daughter and then abandon his family. By taking his
father's place, Billy confuses the sex act in general with
the act of impregnating his mother in particular, thus violating
the taboo of incest. It's no wonder he can't get it up.
Q: 8. In your novel, Billy dreams his father's nightmares
and seems to be deeply affected by events he took no part
in. How can this be possible?
Dr. Maureen Katz of the University of California School of
Medicine at San Francisco is studying what she calls the intergenerational
transmission of trauma due to war, genocide, and terror. Much
of the communication we have with our children is non-verbal
and that means we communicate to them much more than
we ever realize. Children have an uncanny ability to read
the emotional state of a distressed parent. In the case of
post-traumatic stress disorder, the child penetrates the nightmares
and reads the unspoken terrors of the parent. In my novel,
Billy is obsessed not only with the stories his father tells
him about his career as a paid US government assassin. He
also is obsessed with his father's terrors which Billy can
only intuit or imagine.
Q: 9. What are we supposed to learn from the violence you
portray in the novel?
Unfortunately, people learn very little from violence because
they either drop into denial of the event or minimize the
effect it has on their lives. I hope my readers will learn
some of the causes of post-traumatic stress disorder and the
destruction it can lead to if left untreated.
Q: 10. In your novel, you portray Americans and America
as having some deep problems. Do you expect people to like
being told how screwed up they are?
I expect my readers will resonate with the suffering of the
characters in The Dead Are Dancing. I especially believe
that many people have faced the dilemma of my hero, Billy:
Does he keep to himself his reservations about what his town
and country are doing? Or does he risk being called unpatriotic
because he speaks his conscience and questions the course
of American foreign policy? I believe this is a real dilemma
for all people who are called upon to be leaders of their
community and nation and one that is played out daily
not only in America's heartland, but throughout the world.
Q: 11. Satire or not, your novel gives a negative image
of America. Why do you dislike America so much?
As a native son of Illinois, I am loyal to the memory of
what America once was a haven for free-thinking people
who fled the endless military campaigns of the imperial powers
of Europe. Our forefathers came to America to escape the taxes
and conscription that war-crazed monarchs of Europe imposed
upon them. In writing this satire, I remain loyal to that
original vision of America.
Q: 12. Your novel deals with the Cold War and the war in
Viet Nam. Why should anyone care about that anymore? Haven't
we gotten over that?
The malady of post-traumatic stress, by definition, means
we do not get over our emotional wounds easily. In
the case of the Cold War and Viet Nam, many Americans carry
a burden of sorrow and grief in their hearts related to those
events. Often Americans try to deal with these wounds by attempting
to forget. In my novel, I have the townspeople drinking from
"the springs of forgetfulness." It doesn't work.
The memories come back as post-traumatic stress symptoms,
like anxiety, nightmares, physical complaints, insomnia, irritability,
and sometimes take the form of violent acts. As William Faulkner
once said, "The past is not dead... its not even past."
Q: 13. When Billy and his friends plan to blow up the county
draft board, aren't they carrying out a terrorist act against
their country?
Acts of terror are defined as violence against states and
the citizens of states so as to intimidate or undermine the
security or existence of the state. However, these states
must derive their sovereignty from the legitimate authority
they exercise over their citizens. If states are exercising
illegitimate authority over their citizenry, the citizens
are inclined and obligated to resist with the violent destruction
of property and person as was the case with the Boston
Tea Party and the Free French Resistance to the Vichy government
in World War II. The actions of Billy's group, in my opinion,
would qualify as acts of civil disobedience and violent resistance
to the illegitimate authority of the American government.
Q: 14. In the novel, Billy and Frank show love and loyalty
for each other. Why then, does Billy put Frank in danger so
many times? Isn't he manipulating his friend just to carry
out his own plan of action?
Billy is manipulative as his girlfriend, Belle, points out
and cannot agree to. In this way, he is like his enemy, Mayor
Hicks. Both of them feel justified in sacrificing people for
the ultimate success of their goals. Both believe that the
end justifies the means and this ultimately leads to
the destruction of Cannon.
Q: 15. In the novel, Billy knows that his neighbors and
countrymen are wrong about a lot of things. Why does he keep
silent for so long?
This is a conflict for many earnest and well-meaning people
who take on leadership roles in the American heartland. At
what point should I let my conscience speak? And when should
I let my dissenting voice be heard? Do I dare risk being called
unpatriotic if I question the course of our foreign policy?
These are important questions that must be answered everyday
in America and throughout the world by every person who assumes
a position of power.
Q: 16. Billy's father, Bodie, is a strange character. In
the novel, you state that he escorted Nazi defectors to the
United States as part of his service for the American Espionage
Squad. Surely, that's your fictional creation of historical
events?
No, it's not my invention. Strange as it may seem, U.S. espionage
operatives did bring large numbers of Nazi SS officers
to Buenos Aires, Argentina and then escorted many of
these to the United States to live under cover and provide
information. In 1943, following their defeat at the Battle
of Stalingrad, many SS officers who had served on the Russian
front wished to defect. Our government considered them to
be intelligence assets, given their knowledge of the Soviet
Union, and wanted them in the United States. This operation
is still largely unknown to the American people. But it was
American foreign policy at the time, as I learned from interviews
with FBI and OSS operatives who carried out the plan.
Q: 17. Your novel raises a number of moral questions that
may be uncomfortable for the reader. Some examples are the
legitimacy of our aggression in Viet Nam and the censorship
of dissenting opinion in American discourse. What is your
point as a novelist in raising these questions?
The French novelist Albert Camus said that it was not the
novelist's job to answer moral questions like these. As a
novelist, it's your duty to raise the questions, put them
in the face of your countrymen, and keep them alive and at
the center of your culture. Are we masters of our fate or
subjects to our fate? That is the great question for world
fiction. I hope my novel shows that we are neither condemned
by our genes nor our history to repeat the mistakes of our
fathers.
Q: 18. Your character Billy was groomed to be a leader of
his town, Cannon, Illinois. Why can't he assume the leadership
of his people like he always planned to do?
In the novel, Billy pledges himself to be a leader of his
people in order to correct their government's misguided policies
at some later point when he is in charge. When that later
point arrives, he finds that he has become a part of a system
that cares nothing for human values and will crush those who
would change its course. He learns this when he confronts
Mayor Hicks and in response, the mayor brutally attacks the
anti-war demonstration Billy has organized.
Q: 19. Isn't your novel about the friendship between Frank
and Billy that is, isn't it a `buddy' novel?
The idea for the novel developed around the friendship between
the two boys. I find Frank the more interesting character.
He's loyal and worshipful of his friend, yet finds the strength
to break with him and enlist for Viet Nam. When Frank returns,
he has developed as a character and sees clearly that Billy
is heading for disaster. But he follows Billy out of friendship
and his love for Billy leads to Frank's death. He's
a tragic figure.
Q:20. The appearance of the Angel of Death is a turning
point in your novel because from that point on, Billy voices
his opposition to the Viet Nam war. Who or what is the Angel
of Death?
The novel does turn on the Angel of Death. As is the case
in allegorical novels of this kind, there can be several interpretations
of what it means. The Angel of Death is a Christian symbol
taken from the text of the Apocalypse in the New Testament.
I believe the Angel of Death is a projection of Billy's own
destructive impulses which he struggles to overcome. In his
vision, he sees the Angel destroy the children of Cannon,
Illinois by fire. And yet, in the novel, it is Billy who orders
the immolation of Cannon. Billy, like the rest of the people
of Cannon, is caught in a web of violence and vengeance, and
try as he might, he cannot escape that dark legacy.
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